1 (edited by Mc Čun 2009-01-05 13:00:54)

Topic: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7809.html

Bomo videli kje še bo 4870X2 pristala drugače pa počakajmo na uradne benche wink


30.5.2008

Exclusive - Taipei (Taiwan) – AMD’s graphics team has put the finishing touches at its new GPU generation and actually has begun shipping the new 4850 card to OEM partners and retailers: The new Radeon series will sell for prices between $199 and $499.

According to information we came across in Taiwan, AMD/ATI is gunning for a sizeable launch of the new product generation, with Radeon 4850 512 MB boards leading the charge. However, the exact price has not been set yet, even if it is certain that the GDDR3 512 MB version (codenamed Makedon) will debut in a range between $179 and $219. If you ask us, we believe that the board be priced exactly at $199 (US, CAN) as well as 199 Euro.   

We were told that AMD/ATI will decide on final pricing during the Computex tradeshow (which is scheduled to open on Monday) in order to have all the puzzle pieces for a June 18 in place. It certainly does not look like a paper launch at this time and the June 18 is an as-of-now date, since the company could revise is launch schedule to avoid a launch right on the heels of Nvidia’s new high-end parts.

The good news here is certainly that ATI is aiming for $199, sub-$299 and $499 price targets. However, the release dates of the faster SKUs may be problematic: Nvidia is working on new mainstream chips as well, which will debut in Q3 of this year, our sources indicate. 

The Radeon 4870 512 MB is expected to ship in volume sometime this summer. This will be the first graphics card in the market to integrate GDDR5 memory. However, the 4870 X2, will face stiff competition from the GeForce GTX 260: Radeon 4870 X2 cards will sell for $499, while the GeForce GTX 260 is likely to debut at $449.

It is unclear whether ATI's 480 and 960 shader units will be enough to capture market share in the targeted price ranges. All we know is that the game is on and the winner is yet to be decided. According to ATI partners, Nvidia still has a big advantage in its logistics division, both in sales and PR.

Source: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37720/135/


1.6.2008

Hja pa še novi benchmark, sicer ga vzamite z rezervo ker ga bi naj dala NVIDIA ven ampak vseeno zgleda impresivno:

http://resources.vr-zone.com//newspics/May08/30/gtx200-series-performance.jpg

Pa še link:
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/GeForce … /5817.html


5.6.2008

Two updated dates for your calendar are: June 17: Nvidia launches GeForce GTX 200 series. June 23: AMD launches Radeon 4800 series.

Source:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37795/135/


17.6.2008

No prvi benchmarki so zunaj sicer še ni popolnoma izkoriščena (driverji pa to...) ampak za takšno ceno se ta kartica splača kupiti samo za zelo visoke resolucije ali pa SLI. No pa še linki od review's:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc. … 34&p=1
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.h … VzaWFzdA==
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=13736
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/726/1/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zota … mp_Edition
http://www.pcper.com/article.php?type=e … &pid=2
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvi … rformance/
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-g … view-test/
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1465/ … index.html
http://techreport.com/articles.x/14934
http://www.insidehw.com/Reviews/Graphic … X-280.html
http://www.elitebastards.com/cms/index. … ;Itemid=31
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/569
http://www.hothardware.com/articles/NVI … Unleashed/
http://translate.google.com/translate?u … &tl=en
http://www.driverheaven.net/reviews.php … p;pageid=1
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha … eview.html
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_gtx280/
http://www.madboxpc.com/review-nvidia-geforce-gtx-280/
http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=614
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?o … p;Itemid=1
http://www.technic3d.com/article-685,1- … -serie.htm

Tako mislim da bo dovolj za enkrat smile


20.6.2008

Release date:

The 4850 version will be announced on June 23 and become available on June 25, according to our sources, followed by the 4870 on July 8 and the 4870 X2 in mid-August.

The RV770 XT (samo z gddr5) is expected to launch within several days, with an even higher clock speed of 750MHz compared to 625MHz for the RV770 Pro (samo z GDRR3). Because of the memory difference, the overall bandwidth for a board using a RV770 XT is nearly double that of a RV770 Pro board — 115.2GB/sec. vs. 64GB/sec.

BTW 4850 je pri nekaterih špilih celo boljša kot 9800GTX. In po vsej verjetnosti se nam tudi bližajo pocenitve 9800GTX, če je Nvidii za verjet

Ampak da ne boste mislili da Nvidia sedi in gleda v zrak so tudi oni izdali ''spimpano'' 9800GTX-ko. Posebnost te GTX-ke pa je full physic driver support, kar pa pomeni da bi naj ta prenovljena GTX-ka 7.5x hitrejša od 4850. PS če je Nvidii za verjet



Update:

In seveda še prvi benchmarki:

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@CasE to si čakal al


Update:

No in še prve info o ''spimpani'' 9800GTX

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9702/nvid … index.html


23.6.2008

No še prvi benchmarki za 4870:


http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/3715/112232498us4gp0.png

25.6.2008

Pa še več benchmarkov za 4870;

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … crysis.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … crysis.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … 0/cod4.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … CFcod4.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … 0/etqw.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … CFetqw.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … screed.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … screed.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … itcher.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … itcher.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … oshock.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … oshock.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … livion.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … livion.jpg

Naj še dodam da bo 4870 stala v USA 299$. In pa link od full review:

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc. … 41&p=1


3.7.2008

V USA so napovedane pocenitve za GTX280 in sicer za 90$ pa tudi GTX260 bi se naj pocenila za 30$. Zdaj kdaj bo to doseglo Evropo pa who knows. Lahko se tudi zgodi še znižanje po tem ko bo ATI predstavil 4870X2 toliko za zdaj


Update:

Just another update:

Following the recent launch of the ATI Radeon HD 4850 and 4870 GPUs, AMD plans to introduce the high-end dual-GPU HD 4870 X2 by the end of July, according to sources at graphics card vendors.

Evaluation samples are schedule to be available in mid-July, and AMD will begin shipping reference design boards with 2GB GDDR5 memory at the end of the month, the sources detailed.

In mid-August, AMD will also begin shipping the 4870 X2 (RV770XT) GPU to partners wishing to design custom cards, the sources added.

HD 4870 X2 graphics cards are expected to be priced around US$499, the sources detailed

Source: http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20080702PD213.html


4.7.2008

No prihajajo zanimive novice iz Nvidie, da ne bom nekaj na dolgo tolmačil bom samo tri stavka prilimal pa vir pa bo

Roadmap information we stumbled across today offers a bit more clarity and suggests that the company’s next-generation desktop and notebook chips will support DirectX 10.1.

Nvidia’s new GPU generation, we hear, will also be 1.5 to 2 times faster than the current technology.

Oh, and we almost forgot: Nvidia will also switch to GDDR5 memory, most likely within 2008. As GDDR5 chips are more available, we expect first Nvidia GDDR5 cards to hit the market in Q4. 

Sliši se obetavno al?

Source:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38247/135/


10.7.2008

Couple of weeks back, we brought you some exclusive details on AMD's upcoming flagship Radeon 4800 series card; R700. We were the first one to report a July launch, which was confirmed by chinese daily Digitimes six days later.

Again, we are the first one to bring you the exact launch date. R700 (4870X2) is currently slated for launch on the 14th of July. AMD decided to pull the preview ahead by two weeks, so availability is still on track for end of July. R700 samples are already in the hands of reviewing media, Sampsa Muropaketti (famous finnish overclocker) has already recieved one (blog post titled "GTX 280 Killer is here"). Expect records to tumble.

Source:
http://gpucafe.com/?p=19

Update

Get the salt out and try to fend off ATI fanboys as the interweb's mysterious ways are 'suggesting' that the upcoming graphics performance crown contender, the single PCB, dual-GPU Radeon HD 4870 X2 will be officially introduced as soon as Monday, July 14. Apparently, Monday the reviews will begin pouring in while actual cards will arrive in stores later on, before the end of this month.

The Radeon HD 4870 X2 is said to be coming in several configurations but its basis remains a chip trio consisting of two RV770 GPUs and one PLX PCI-Express 2.0 bridge chip. Boasting 1600 Stream Processors, the new X2 will have a 2x256-bit memory interface and will be equipped with (at least) 1GB of memory (GDDR5). The 1GB card's expected price tag is $499.

Source:
http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php? … mp;catid=2

14.7.2008

Prvi benchmarki za 4870X2

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … fconan.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … crysis.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … livion.jpg
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/vid … 0/GRID.jpg

Source:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3354


14.9.2008

Tako da malce osvežimo temo. Se pravi kot zgleda se bodo nadgrajene GTX260 in GTX280 imenovale GT206 in GT212. Sicer ta slika ni uradna je pa zanimiva ker kot kaže bo tudi Nvidia nasledno leto že predstavila grafo na 40nm procesu wink

http://media.bestofmicro.com/1/H/158165/original/picture01.jpg

Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia … ,6355.html


10.12.2008

No pa je dokončno znano da bo tudi Nvidia predstavila grafo z dvema GPUjema, več o tem spodaj.

Source: http://vr-zone.com/articles/geforce-gtx … l?doc=6259
in še slika
http://vr-zone.com/articles/geforce-gtx … l?doc=6264

wink


18.12.2008

Znane so tudi frekvence in druge zadeve smile

http://resources.vr-zone.com/image_deposit/up2/1229397941eb20bba5cc.jpg

http://resources.vr-zone.com/image_deposit/up2/12293977600c8f35b3c6.jpg

Te benchmarke jemljite z rezervo kajti kdo ve pod kakšnimi okoliščinami so bili narejeni testi wink

Pa še en link:
http://www.guru3d.com/news/tomorrow-18-december-/

wink


19.12.2008

In že so tukaj prvi benchmarki:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-295-preview/1

Naj še omenim da so to samo benchmarki katere je Nvidia dovolila objaviti sad tako da ni nujno da je vse tako dobro kot kaže.

wink


30.12.2008

Na Nizozemskem je že oglas za GTX285 objavljen:
http://www.salland.eu/?redirect=@L3Byb2 … IuaHRtbA==

wink


05.01.2009

Pojavile so se cene za GTX 295 wink
Source:
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?optio … p;Itemid=1

smile

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

kaka je fora med GTX 280 in 260???
in kaka bo razlika v ceni???

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

Ja v ceni pa v performance tudi.

http://megagames.com/news/html/hardware … iled.shtml

Podrobnejši opis razlik med GTX280 in GTX260 wink

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

GTX260 je v bistvu 9900GTS al se mi sam zdi da ma vse lastnosti enke kot so za GTS previdli. Smotano to da že na začetku naredijo dva GTXa ko je že itq težko ločit tote GTS GT GTX GS GX2.... pol je še pa vsakih po 5 različnih sad  big_smile

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

totle 9900GTX280 bo huda makina upam da bo tut cena huda (v negativno smer big_smile) To bo pomoje kakih 50% hitrejša od 9800GX2.

Bo hitrejša od 8800GTX (SLI) al pa od 9800GTX (SLI) ????

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

je res da bo 9900GTX280 stala 649$ v USA???? po mojih podatkih je to 420€ kar ni tok velik ??!?!?!?! no v SLO bo verjetno precej  dražja ampak wtf 420€

GTX260 pa naj bi bil 449 kar je 290€ in tut ful pocen big_smile=D=D=D=D=D=D=D

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

GTX280 bo krepko hitrejša kot 8800GTX SLI katera je trenutno najzmoglivejša varijanta za grafe če odmislimo triple SLI in quad SLI. GTS SLI je boljši od 8800GTX sli samo pri nižjih resolucijah. Glede cen bi pa jaz tudi rad da bi bilo tako kot ti praviš samo da je to daleč od resnice, kajti naprimer sem gledal prej glih mislim da za ATI 4850 da bo v USA prišel 229$ pri nas pa 229€ tako da če bo isto pri NVIDIA potem bodo cene rahlo zasoljene wink

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

hah HD3870 X2 ma kao vsposod isto ?!?!?
so pa hude grafe ni ke, sam ki pa je fora da CoD4 manj ko Crysis ???

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

zadnč sem bral da bo GTX (ni pisalo 260 al 280 sam verjetno 280) stal ob prihodu 600€ po prvih dveh tednih pa še okoli 550.
ka sploh označujejo oznake 0.8 1.0 ... na desni strani ???

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

@loleq? kaj ti misliš tiste številke na levi ali kje to gledaš? Drugače tiste številke na levi so naprimer če je 3870X2 dosegla naprimer pri Crysis 20FPS je GTX280 1.8x hitrejša se pravi 36FPS. Samo saj pravim to je treba vzeti z rezervo kajti ne ve se pri kakšni resoluciji je bilo to testirano in drugih nastavitvah. Zdaj zakaj ima 3870X2 vedno 1 je pa simple. 3870X2 so vzeli za osnovo se pravi koliko fps-jev je dosegla je vedno 1, tako da naprimer pri crysis 20FPS pri COD4 30FPS itd... in pol pač je prikazano koliko so pač tanove nvidie hitrejše wink

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

jah, s mi je postalo pol jasno smile

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

Ni za vsake oči zelo HUDA zadeva:

http://overclockingpin.com/final%20gtx2 … li-air.jpg

http://overclockingpin.com/final%20gtx2 … -air-2.jpg

In ko mislite da ne more biti hujše.....

http://overclockingpin.com/final%20gtx2 … ek9-40.jpg

Samo score na xtreme levelu si poglejte yikes

No pa še link od celega testa:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/sho … p?t=191313

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

Se pravi se splača počakat do konca meseca, ker je možnost da se 9800GTX poceni? Oziroma se naj bi dalo dobiti 4850 z isto ceno, a naj bi bila malenkost boljša?

Čeprav sploh nevem kako dolgo pol držijo te kartice na high? 1 leto, malo več? (GTX9800 npr.) Jebo jim... Vsak teden dajo v prodajo neki novega.

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

4850 so že v ponudbi v Sloveniji za 165€ yikes

15 (edited by loleq? 2008-06-20 15:11:27)

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

Niakakor se ne morem prepričat da je gtx 280 res vredi. 9800 gx2 ga praktično povsod šije čeprav je cenejši. Bo treba počakat na gtx 280 dvojedrno verzijo. Se san ja komu kdaj bo to?? Admi  je reku da približno takrat ko bo 4870 X2.
LP!

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

Po pravici povedano se širijo govorice da ne bo GTX280X2. Tako da bomo morali počakat kako in kaj.  Vendar bomo videli kako se bodo physic driverji obnesli kajti dvomim da bi Nvidia prepustila ATI-u da bi bil king of the hill v high end graphic cards. Word on the street is da ima Nvidia pod sabo firmo AGEIA med tem ko ima ATI pod sabo firmo HAVOK. Obe izmed teh firm ima svojo physic technology tako da bomo videli kateri physic sistem se bo obnesel oziroma kakšne bo imel svoje prednosti/slabosti smile

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

kaj pravite na ATI 4580??

18 (edited by CasE 2008-06-20 19:52:03)

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

Mc Čun wrote:

@CasE to si čakal al big_smile

HD4850 pomete z GTX9800...that's all what matters

Poleg tega pa so caa. 75€ cenejše :d


Grem h komunistom, FIX!

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

CasE wrote:
Mc Čun wrote:

@CasE to si čakal al big_smile

HD4850 pomete z GTX9800...that's all what matters

Poleg tega pa so caa. 75€ cenejše :d


Grem h komunistom, FIX!

Ja ATi je dal kar pravi odgovor... in že kot je tradicionalno za manj denarja... big_smile

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

Admin kaj je tisto na uvodni strani za ATI 4850 kjer piše DDR2 napaka?

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

EJ KA VE KDO KAK SE BO NOVA DVOJEDRNA VERZIJA GTXA IMENOVALA?? IN RELEASE DATE??

22 (edited by Mc Čun 2008-06-22 22:24:41)

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

Za enkrat je vse tiho tako da sploh ni nujno da bo izšla. Obstaja možnost da jo bodo dali ven ko bodo predstavili GTX290 in GTX270 ampak se mi zdi do je bolj verjetno da bo releasana po tem ko bodo GTX290 in GTX 270 na trgu smile

Pa naslednjič ne pozabi

http://bp1.blogger.com/_2V4SjnIg0XI/SAi … pslock.jpg

23 (edited by loleq? 2008-06-23 07:35:51)

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

hahahah lol capslock no necesary all the time big_smile. Nisn vidu da mam on pol se mi pa ni dalo brisat, kak pa se vse spremeni nazaj v malo pa sm pozabu smile
Damn o GTX 290 in 270 nič ne najdem, maš kak link al pa če mi ti kej poves. Pa zanima me tut kdaj prideta te dve.
Thx

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

V bistvu sta to navadni GTX280 in GTX260 vendar narejeni na 55nm procesu napram zdajšnim katere so narejene na 65nm procesu. Se pravi bodo rahlo hladnejše in bodo imele višje frekvence delovanje napram zdajšnim. Prišle pa bi naj Q3 2008. Za link pa ga moram prvo poiskati pa ga objavim takoj ko ga najdem wink

Re: ATI 48xx in NVIDIA GTX2x0 prvi benchmarki (neuradno)

Zanimivo... Ati je malce slabša... Kot vedno sem še vedno za ATi... bravo... wink